Stacey Abrams, the two-time Democratic Georgia gubernatorial candidate, told MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace on Monday that she never denied losing her 2018 race but instead sought to redefine victory to inspire her supporters.Abrams, who has run twice for Georgia governor and may run again, refused to formally concede to Gov. Brian Kemp (R) in 2018. At the time, she accused Kemp, then Georgias secretary of state, of enacting policies that suppressed voters. Since then, she has denied "challenging" the election and acknowledged Kemp as the legitimate governor "under the rules that were in place."Wallace interviewed Abrams on Mondays episode of her podcast, "The Best People." After calling Abrams a "bada--," Wallace asked what she means when she warns against seeing political victory as a "cinematic moment."CHUCK TODD WORRIES DEMOCRATIC PARTY HASN'T 'LOST ENOUGH' TO LEARN LESSON, CHANGE COURSE"In 2018, when I lost my election, I was never confused about it," Abrams claimed. "I had conversations with communities, and I would say, We won, and that just would send people into these, you know, paroxysms of hatred. What I was telling them is: Look, not getting the title did not mean that we didnt make progress."The former candidate, who frequently then argued, "When you are trying to defend democracy, when youre trying to serve the people, progress counts as victory. Because their goal is your silence. Their goal is your complicity. Their goal is your subjugation. Every day we remain free, that is progress."RISING DEMOCRATIC STAR WES MOORE SAYS PARTY 'JUST GAVE UP' ON CERTAIN PARTS OF USA IN 2024 CAMPAIGNAbrams said Democrats will continue to lose politically if they only define victory through elections."But if we have to wait for this large announcement, like elections, to say that This is when we win, were going to keep losing," she argued. "I say Lets look for the small interstitial victories we can graspthose small moments of progress we can makebecause that adds up to the actual victory were trying to get to."CLICK HERE FOR MORE COVERAGE OF MEDIA AND CULTURE